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Adam's avatar

I appreciate the overall point of this article, that some people overdo it with the negativity. But I have been listening to Chris's QTR podcast for years and I get a lot of value from it. The mainstream orthodoxy seems to be that all you have to do is just put all your money in a stock index fund and trust the market to take care of you. I used to believe this until I discovered Chris (and others that one might call "permabears"). Sometimes I follow discussions among Mustachians and FIRE enthusiasts; they obsess over the exact details of withdrawal rates in retirement, and just take it as a given that the stock market will go up. You can quibble with Chris's style if you want, but still I think it remains true that he provides a valuable counterpoint to the mainstream just-put-everything-in-an-index-fund perspective.

I also wonder what exactly you think Chris has gotten wrong. As far as I can remember, he has not been predicting imminent market collapses or anything like that. (Except perhaps in early 2020, when he was right!) His overall point is that there are fragilities in the markets that we should be aware of, even though we can't know exactly when the problems will manifest themselves. Chris was also right in a huge way in predicting that covid would be a big deal, back when the official narrative was that it was "just the flu."

Let me ask you this: if you don't like Chris Irons then who would you recommend instead? Because I think there are definitely important and valuable things he talks about that are hard to find in the mainstream.

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Baz's avatar

Good read. One thing I would say about Marc Faber is that he may be cantankerous and disdainful of politicians and central bankers, but he stays invested; he is not a “world is going to end go to cash/gold” type of guy. He focuses on diversification and doesn’t push risky strategies like some of the other doomers (short selling etc)

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